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FreakSoftware
2007.06.15, 03:45 AM
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OneSadCookie
2007.06.15, 04:10 AM
And here I thought it was because Apple was deliberately emulating Microsoft... multi-year OS development times, release schedule slippage, random transparency, and a million new "are you really sure" dialogs...

PowerMacX
2007.06.15, 12:20 PM
and a million new "are you really sure" dialogs...

What?!!!?? Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!! :mad:

EvolPenguin
2007.06.15, 02:44 PM
...and a million new "are you really sure" dialogs...

Damn Safari 3 :\ .

Alex

Cochrane
2007.06.16, 05:56 AM
and a million new "are you really sure" dialogs...

It started with iTunes, really, I think around version 4.1 or something. I'm not sure whether there even was a version 4.1, but I'm certain that it was the first real update after the initial release for Windows. Apple should stop porting software to Windows, it's having a bad influence on them. Safari 3 is a perfect example for that. Sure, many of the new features are nice, but I always liked that Safari didn't ask me when I was closing a window with multiple tabs.

EvolPenguin
2007.06.16, 10:49 AM
It's also buggy, even after I do the quick reply, it tells me this tab has text entered and I will lose that if I close the tab. Oh well.

Alex

AnotherJake
2007.06.16, 12:15 PM
Sure, many of the new features are nice, but I always liked that Safari didn't ask me when I was closing a window with multiple tabs.
Don't they let you turn that notification off in 3? That would drive me insane! (Safari 3 won't launch for me) I've barely been able to tolerate that stupid confirmation dialog for downloads. Actually I still hate it, what am I saying?

maximile
2007.06.16, 01:36 PM
No, you can turn that off. It introduces another one though for when you close a window with a form you've typed in but not submitted.

EvolPenguin
2007.06.16, 04:17 PM
Yeah, that's my problem (except it does it even after the form has been submitted :mad: . Can anyone tell me how to eliminate the asking for multiple tabs etc? (I did a quick scan of the prefs and didn't see it, but I have to go to a graduation party so I didn't look very thoroughly). (I do, however, like that Safari includes a spellcheck, it should help at least a little bit)

Alex

Cochrane
2007.06.16, 04:36 PM
It's in the "Tabs" section.

Too bad that the spell checker still sucks when changing languages (as do all Mac OS X apps that use Cocoa's spell checker). Why can't it re-check a text when I change the language? Instead, when I write something in a different language and see that everything goes red, I have to click on every single word to remove the red lines. That sucks. But it's still better than no spell checker at all, so I can live with it.

ThemsAllTook
2007.06.16, 06:09 PM
Too bad that the spell checker still sucks when changing languages (as do all Mac OS X apps that use Cocoa's spell checker). Why can't it re-check a text when I change the language? Instead, when I write something in a different language and see that everything goes red, I have to click on every single word to remove the red lines. That sucks. But it's still better than no spell checker at all, so I can live with it.

Remember that Leopard is still in beta... File a bug report, and Apple might well listen. http://bugreporter.apple.com/

PowerMacX
2007.06.16, 06:30 PM
I already filled one about the incredibly lame "Multilingual" dictionary. Basically, if a word is word in any of 10 or so languages, it's "ok" (!??!!!?). Incredibly useless... How about a little context sensitivity? Or even go a bit further: support for more than one language in a single document/text area (assign a language per text block).

Also, I'd love to be able to set spell check language per-application.

ferum
2007.06.17, 01:14 AM
a million new "are you really sure" dialogs...

...Which you can turn off. boo hoo you have to go check a box in the preferences. you're right that ruins the entire OS for me. :rolleyes: As for the release date slip, that was due to the iPhone. No need to complain about things that make perfect sense.

AnotherJake
2007.06.17, 01:42 AM
Oh! Sarcasm! Right on!

1) a steady stream of dialog boxes asking me if I'm an idiot... sucks

2) Steven P. Jobs seemingly throwing a tantrum and pulling major resources off of an OS which so many developers have shed blood sweat and tears to support, so that he can pursue a product that he wants them to have NOTHING TO DO WITH... sucks

We're a little miffed as developers. Sosume, as he would say...

Oh wait... Oooh... aahhh... Ajax... Ooooh... Aaaahhh...

I'll go click my little preferences. That's not the point. We didn't used to have to do that until somebody at Apple thought it was a really good idea to pretend we were Windows wannabes. Oh the drama!

OneSadCookie
2007.06.17, 02:02 AM
...Which you can turn off. boo hoo you have to go check a box in the preferences. you're right that ruins the entire OS for me. :rolleyes:

Really? A comprehensive list'd be fantastic. Start with telling me where to turn off the "security warning" for mounting a disk image that lacks a checksum that appeared in 10.4.9, and the "are you really sure you want to quit" warning in the Safari 3 beta when you have multiple tabs open, or have submitted an AJAX form (such as the quick reply on these forums).

As for the release date slip, that was due to the iPhone. No need to complain about things that make perfect sense.

It was a convenient scapegoat, at least.

sacha
2007.06.17, 06:05 AM
I couldn't care less about this warning dialog for textboxes in Safari. That's a bug that it still appears after the form has been submitted.
What I want to know is how does a desktop background with a dark or even black upper portion work with this new menubar? I don't have Leopard beta, so I can't check myself. And how do Stacks work when the Dock is on the side of the screen? (Text orientation and such)
Telling us the new menubar and Dock appearance is a feature is pretty insulting. Stacks are a new and welcome feature. Cover Flow in the Finder is a new (and in my opinion pretty useless) feature. But that was it. The rest was a simple rehash of what we have known for a year now.

PowerMacX
2007.06.18, 01:51 AM
What I want to know is how does a desktop background with a dark or even black upper portion work with this new menubar? I don't have Leopard beta, so I can't check myself.

Try http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/25271
Enable "Fake transparency".

I find it very strange, I've heard people say that it makes you focus on the application windows, but I actually find myself focusing more on the menu. :wacko:

Anyway, apparently it is configurable, and even if it wasn't someone would post the appropriate "defaults write com.apple.whatever ..." to disable the transparency the minute Leopard goes for sale.

Cochrane
2007.06.18, 03:40 AM
Remember that Leopard is still in beta... File a bug report, and Apple might well listen. http://bugreporter.apple.com/

Actually, that complaint was about Tiger (I could never afford to get Leopard pre-release). Thanks for the idea with the bug report, though.