Thank God I Don't Use A PC

[Blacktiger]

I like Vista.

I use it daily, but I also use it with the full knowledge that it's a pre-service pack 1 OS from the boys in Redmond. That necessarily means it will have glitches, bugs, and annoyances. That's a given.


Ever notice how its not that way with Mac OS X? Except for the public beta (10.0), but that was labeled as such. I never have any fears about immediately upgrading to a new version when Apple releases one. In fact, I intend to buy Leopard the day it comes out! But anytime Microsoft releases a new version of Windows, people are told they should wait until at least service pack 1 before upgrading.

Vista is even more guilty of this than some of the previous versions of Windows because it actually breaks many key applications. In the past there have always been a few applications that don't work, but those are usually pretty outdated pieces of software anyway. This time the numbers are much higher from what I can tell.

[AnotherJake]

They'll get it together. Vista is a good offering. It's just that Windows people like being with the herd, and most of the herd hasn't moved to the new field yet (mmmooOOUUUH!).

It's like how most of the population lives in cities. MS built a new City with Vista and not everybody wants to move there yet because a few neighborhoods don't have water or electricity yet. But worse, Best Buy and Circuit City haven't built there yet and the herd *has* to have BB and CC to survive in the city!

It's been a few years, but OS X was definitely like that too for at least a year and half. Then everybody started switching from 9 to X in droves. It actually started with 10.2 as I recall. For Vista I recently saw a joke where the latest update actually turns Vista into XP, because, "We listened to our customers and we're giving them what they want in Vista."

The only thing that's different is that Vista is just more of the same thing, whereas OS X was a radical departure. Poor Winderz folks just don't know what they've been missing out on.

[Skorche]

They'll get it together. Vista is a good offering.

At this point, it's unclear to me what is good at all about Vista. I have to restart about once or twice a week due to bizarre bugs. Stability seems to be a big step backwards. Other than Aero, what new functionality worth writing home about is there?

IMO, OS X was pretty buggy up until 10.1. It wasn't just the beta.

[AnotherJake]

Well, I was just trying to be nice...

Gadgets man gadgets! :p

[BeyondCloister]

At this point, it's unclear to me what is good at all about Vista.

My findings are that it connects to my wireless network and stays connected - a very good feature I find working across the internet all day long.

This is a feature that Apple don't think MacBook owners need these days :mad:

[Najdorf]

Mac os x 10.x sucked, and also 10.1.x, 10.2 was leaps faster.

[backslash]

A woman from Microsoft phoned me at work a couple of weeks back and invited me to upgrade the company to Vista. After I told her that I'd heard of stability issues, and new for a fact that it wasn't compatible with at least one piece of software that everyone at our company uses all day, every day. She assured me that she uses it and "it's not really that bad". Trying to move the conversation along (so I could get on with some work) I asked her what benefits the upgrade would have that wold justify the expense of replacing 95% of our PCs. She was stumped.
I am considering upgrading our last few Windows 2000 machines to XP, though.

On the Mac side, I didn't really get along with OS X until 10.2 either. I still occasionally have to use OS 9 (Avid editors can be stuck in their ways...) and I find it baffling that I used to like it so much (and be able to remember how it worked).

[StealthyCoin]

Ive heard people saying/claiming both:
1 Vista is great and doesn't have any stability issues.
Im sure thats BS
2 Vista is terrible and easts childrens' souls.

I don't know what to think about it other than im not buying it for a very long time.

[skyhawk]

having had to use Vista for the past 2 months at my job, it is anything but "good offering".

I had to reformat and reinstall it 5 times. It blue screened often. The drivers suck.

Other than the critical problems, it's great! oh wait....

at work, I'm glad to be back on XP.

[AndyKorth]

I use vista at work... It's worse than your worst nightmare, even if it involves eating children's souls.

[KittyMac]

I've worked with Vista every day for about 6 months now, and I have no stability complaints. It's never crashed on me, it's always connected to my networks, it's fast. In my experience, better than XP ever was.

[skyhawk]

I've worked with Vista every day for about 6 months now, and I have no stability complaints. It's never crashed on me, it's always connected to my networks, it's fast. In my experience, better than XP ever was.

maybe you just had a good machine.

it works fine with good stuff, and on bad stuff, it eats children

[ERaZer]

maybe you just had a good machine.

it works fine with good stuff, and on bad stuff, it eats children

That's my experience as well, we have 2 machine with Vista, one works fine, a bit more funky than XP, the other one is like cursed and spreads bad energy to anyone coming close to it.

[FreakSoftware]

Today I heard my professor and a few students talking about Vista horror stories. My professor is also waiting for her laptop to arrive from Dell. It's been delayed for over two months.

Thank you Apple. Life would be so horrible without you.

[Josh]

It seems to vary a lot from machine to machine. A few of the guys I live with have Vista. One it works fine for but the other... it takes 10 minutes to boot, freezes 1/3 of the time on login and doesn't run most anything.

Once they get a service pack or two out it will probably be pretty good. I'm not quite sure how it's an improvement over XP though.

[Skorche]

Didn't they put out a service pack a few weeks ago?

[aarku]

My MacBook Pro (LED 15" model) hard crashes 1-2 times a day. It's all conjecture, computers are too complicated.

-Jon

[Josh]

Didn't they put out a service pack a few weeks ago?
I don't believe so...

[TomorrowPlusX]

The last version of Windows I actually used was Win2K. I have to say I was really very happy with it. Rock solid, fast. Did what I expected it to do. It was far FAR better than OS 9, which is why I was using it for web design and flash programming.

Now, that being said I've always been a Mac user deep down, and since 2002 have been 100% OS X at home and at work.

[Blacktiger]

I found another PC horror story (http://stevenf.com/2007/09/macs_really_do_run_windows_better.php). It would be funny if it weren't true. The guy pointed out that after installing windows you end up doing like 20 updates and restarts before the computer is up to date. I think every time I've done a clean install of Mac OS X I've only had to restart at most 5 times; it seems like Apple tends to combine updaters to prevent the fun update chains you usually get in windows.

[Hairball183]

I've used 10.0, and it was pretty buggy. I upgraded to 10.4 on an iMac g3, and it ran really well,(Although I couldn't do Quartz Extreme). I am now sitting high on a 1.83 GHZ Mac Mini.;) I've used Vista, and as soon as you start up, you get 100's(Exaggeration:p) of dialogs asking you to upgrade your software, or try software, or configure security, etc etc etc. Then, you start up an app, and it happens all over again.:mad:

[Joseph Duchesne]

This summer I sold an Acer that came with 512MB of ram. With Vista, it took 20 seconds to open a webpage. The solution: add more ram. :/... How much ram do you need to open a window and display 14kb of text and GIFs on google's main page?

[akb825]

The fact that you need to have like 2 GB of RAM to run Vista is reason enough to not use it. When I got my MacBook Pro, I left it with 512 MB of RAM for a while until a friend gave me an extra RAM stick he had. It was a little faster, but honestly it was fine with just 512 MB. Also, when it takes them a year to get the shutdown menu together, you know there's a problem...

[Hairball183]

Well, I was just trying to be nice...

Gadgets man gadgets! :p

Dashboard can function as gadgets. Paste this into Terminal "defaults write com.apple.dashboard devmode YES"(No quotation marks.) Open dashboard, click and hold the desired widget, and go back to the finder. Voila, gadgets. Mac OS X triumphs again!:cool: