Keep Or Skip (CMG Blind Contest entry)

[junyx]

This is the web page (http://www.suddenrainbow.com/kor/) for my entry Keep Or Skip. I just posted the same message on the CMG forum.
I'm the developer of Bubble Blast!, a uDevGame 2003 entry. I'm so happy to see the iDG community online again :) And I can't wait for uDG 2004 :p

[junyx]

I'm sorry, a wrong version of the game was online until now :p

[DM6]

cool game idea, but it plays all the clips in the correct order when i play...not much of a challenge..

-Duncan

[junyx]

cool game idea, but it plays all the clips in the correct order when i play...not much of a challenge..

-Duncan

:blink: You seem really lucky! :p The game uses the ranrot random number generator to mix up the clips. Did you try to play again?
Thank you for your feedback

[funkboy]

I love this idea!

However, it's doing exactly what DM6 says: it's playing the clips right in order. Not only that, but it's taking about five seconds of the song, and just taking that bit of it and playing it back to back. It's just like hearing the song with "two" spoken in between.

You could extend this game in so many ways - take parts of the song from further apart (take the first five seconds and the last five seconds), use more than two clips, etc.

However, right now it's just playing them in order, so there's really no challenge. Just a lot of typing "1," "2." Wonder what could be wrong... I have iTunes 4.6.

[DM6]

i played again and after 3 songs i got a shuffled one. maybe you should make the program make sure the tracks are out of order. But I had fun, and heard some music i hadn't listened to in a long time. also the voice explains the instructions very often. once or twice is enough i think.

-Duncan

[BeyondCloister]

It shuffled okay when I played it.

However I've seen random working fine on my computers and not others. i.e. in FlipSquare I got random every time I played it on my Macs, yet some other people say they got no randomness at all.

I would think that having a gap between the parts may make it impossible on certain songs if it got a clip from chorus one and another clip from chorus two. Also instrumental tracks would be harder to play.

[funkboy]

I would think that having a gap between the parts may make it impossible on certain songs if it got a clip from chorus one and another clip from chorus two. Also instrumental tracks would be harder to play.

That's very true, and part of the challenge :)

[Hog]

Also instrumental tracks would be harder to play.

that's relatively easy compared to when it gives you 10 seconds of silence shuffled up

[funkboy]

The developer could make sure the clip he's sampling, though, is not silence, by adding up its overall sound level. If it's less than a certain threshold, throw it out and move forward in the song a little more.

I pity what happens to the songs that are silent on the iTunes Music Store, though, haha.

Hey, there's a thought - instead of scouring a user's local drive, could this be used to play iTunes Music Store clips and cut up those 30 seconds? That would be great - trying to see if you can guess the name of songs you don't have in your collection, but maybe you've heard. Like, from a favorite artist, or at least an artist you have in your collection.

"Ooooh, that sounds like a live version of 'So What!'"

[DM6]

The developer could make sure the clip he's sampling, though, is not silence, by adding up its overall sound level. If it's less than a certain threshold, throw it out and move forward in the song a little more.

I pity what happens to the songs that are silent on the iTunes Music Store, though, haha.

Hey, there's a thought - instead of scouring a user's local drive, could this be used to play iTunes Music Store clips and cut up those 30 seconds? That would be great - trying to see if you can guess the name of songs you don't have in your collection, but maybe you've heard. Like, from a favorite artist, or at least an artist you have in your collection.

"Ooooh, that sounds like a live version of 'So What!'"

Ooh wow Miles would be really hard unless you listen enough to know the order of the solos..

I think Keep or Skip should maybe start out with 3 clips instead of 2 on lower levels. If you only have two clips, you only have one right choice and one wrong choice, which is a less-than-captivating challenge.

Also in the instructions you say "to continue select 'continue'" and other such phrases that cater to speech recognition users exclusively; that kind of instruction is sure to leave keyboard users off-put if not downright confused.

-Duncan

[ICECOLD]

I Need Some Help
Never Done This Stuff Before
Any Help Would Be Appreciated

[BeyondCloister]

Also in the instructions you say "to continue select 'continue'" and other such phrases that cater to speech recognition users exclusively; that kind of instruction is sure to leave keyboard users off-put if not downright confused.

I've only played it using the keyboard and I've not had any real issues with it. The instructions do say to use keyboard just type the first letter of the command.

[junyx]

Thanks to everybody for the suggestions. I'm planning to make a graphical version of the game after the contest, so they're very precious!

maybe you should make the program make sure the tracks are out of order.
I think knowing that the clips are not in order would decrease the challenge. However I'll try to improve the random algorithm.

also the voice explains the instructions very often. once or twice is enough i think.

If you already know the command you want to select, you can just select it without waiting for the voice


that's relatively easy compared to when it gives you 10 seconds of silence shuffled up

Well, that's when you should skip the track ;)

I think Keep or Skip should maybe start out with 3 clips instead of 2 on lower level

I agree, maybe in the next version.