uDG 2004: BitRacer

[willThimbleby]

uDG is over and I need some sleep, my congrats to all. The newest version can now be found here http://www.udevgames.com/downloads/?dlid=19

I just finally squashed the big timing bug today and it should now run great on single processor machines as well. (Hoping that nobody voted for it before now :shock:) I would really appreciate your testing, as mine hasn't been that wide. And feedback. :)

All those who tried it before -- have another go. :)

I'm now working on a track creation guide (warning it uses blender or textedit) shout if you are interested.

http://www.udevgames.com/downloads/downloads/t_brscreenshot1.jpg http://www.udevgames.com/downloads/downloads/t_brscreenshot2.jpg http://www.udevgames.com/downloads/downloads/t_brscreenshot3.jpg

-Will

[arekkusu]

Super slowdown is gone, can race again.
* Still slow to start (9 dock bounces), cross fade is cool though.
* Physics running into/alongside a wall are still weird, results in very unrealistic collisions during race.
* Cel shading option doesn't do anything?

[willThimbleby]

Unfortunately physics made out of boxes is here to stay. The cel shading doesn't do anything, I was just tweaking it.

Thanks for the feedback. -- unfortunately the update will have to wait till next week now as I'm off now to cook for 80 odd people for the weekend :)

[ThemsAllTook]

A very solid entry! One of my favorites. A few things:

The physics are terribly annoying. Why is my ship a cube? When I'm facing a wall and I try to accelerate and turn left or right, I just stay stuck on the wall. I also get stuck on my nose/tail after long falls sometimes, and spin out of control forever.

Is there any way to unlock Fast & Furious for courses other than the first one? I finally managed to finish the first course on Fast & Furious, but the second one remained locked.

The music doesn't work for me. Regardless of what I set the music volume to in the preferences, it doesn't play. I can listen to it if I open the app bundle, and open the music file in another program...

- Alex Diener

[aaronsullivan]

ThemsAllTook, you need to come in first to unlock the next track. :)
It's much easier to flip yourself and go into infinite spin on your nose on later tracks, too.

I also really like this game. I especially like track 3. :D

I know you say the physics made of boxes is here to stay, but if you mean that you can't fix the odd car physics then I'm signing off on this one. :( I'll be interested again if/when that is fixed.

[ThemsAllTook]

ThemsAllTook, you need to come in first to unlock the next track. :)

I did come in first. The regular courses unlock just fine, but Fast & Furious doesn't seem to.

- Alex Diener

[aaronsullivan]

Oh, my bad. :) I forgot about the fast & furious mode, I was thinking it was just the name of the first track. That sounds like a bug.

[willThimbleby]

thanks. I'll look at those bugs this evening. Physics and collision detection are very hard things to do right -- impossible in 3months -- I use ODE and it just can't handle collisions with anything other than boxes or spheres with any reliability. I would have loved to make sweeping tracks and oval racers but with ODE I just can't. :( Making good levels out of boxes isn't easy either.

I'll fix the nose tail thing, though.

In some sense I tried to do too much. To get this sort of arcade game right takes longer. I've got ideas and things to fix all this, but it needs a completely new physics engine and thats not a simple fix.

-will

[willThimbleby]

Well I've fixed all those bugs that I know about now. Had to be after voting had finished. :) You can now progress in furious mode, and click through the fade if it takes too long.

-Will

[diordna]

use a sphere for the ship not a box, it suits it better

[willThimbleby]

Ah, but then it would roll everywhere. I did try lots and lots and lots of things, the box is a bit naff on collisions but then most of the other solutions were naff to drive. Thus the box wins unless you are a very bad driver. :)

[skyhawk]

Ah, but then it would roll everywhere. I did try lots and lots and lots of things, the box is a bit naff on collisions but then most of the other solutions were naff to drive. Thus the box wins unless you are a very bad driver. :)
which of course everyone first playing your game is. Bad move dude

[phydeaux]

In Nanocrisis I used ODE for polygon-sphere collisons and it worked okay. For high-speeds perhaps it's a bit screwier, but that would have been a much better choice than making everything a box- I think that's really what ruined the game for me, because once you hit a wall too hard at a bad angle, because it's a box you get spun around like crazy, screwing you over permanently for the most part.

[Zwilnik]

If you're doing your ground collision on the same basis as your wall collision (so using a sphere breaks your ground collision), use a cylinder. Effectively turning your car into a hockey puck and hopefully giving you better wall collision.

I liked this one, despite the look, it's rather fun to play :)

[ThemsAllTook]

In the newest version, I get a crash every time I try to restart a race. :(

**********

Host Name: Bendezium.local
Date/Time: 2004-11-23 22:54:12 -0500
OS Version: 10.3.6 (Build 7R28)
Report Version: 2

Command: JetRace
Path: /Users/adiener/Desktop/BitRacer/BitRacer.app/Contents/MacOS/JetRace
Version: 1.0.9 (1.0.9)
PID: 786
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000004

Thread 0 Crashed:
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3 JetRacer 0x00017f0c -[JRMenuItemView check] + 0xc0 (crt.c:300)
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8 JetRacer 0x0000935c _start + 0x188 (crt.c:267)
9 dyld 0x8fe1a558 _dyld_start + 0x64

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- Alex Diener

[willThimbleby]

Ack. Just built a new version over vnc from work, and uploaded it. Should work now but stupidly not tested. :) Games don't work well over vnc. Will check properly when I get home.