Help starting

[mr98321]

iv ben looking for a game engine for some time and cant seam to find any good ones. My gole is a mac mmorpg that is cross platform. ive tried to install Crystal space but gave up after i had a problem because i installed something that was conflicting with it. Im ok with making the graphics and have made some animations that i think are better than final fantasy. I tried to get Xcode but i need 10. 4 and i have 10.2.8 and i cant seam to find the old developer tools any wair. so could some one help me ore if you are working on a mmorpg for mac i would be glad to help for free. As long as the game is going to be free lol.

[OneSadCookie]

o_O

Clearly they don't teach English in your part of the US.

[blobbo]

You know, we should really all take turns dealing with posts like this. I'll give this one a go.

mr98321: First of all, Welcome! No matter what gets said, please remember that we're happy to have another active member, and we'd be thrilled if you'd stay around and become an active mac developer.

That said, the scope of an MMPORG is enormous. There is, most likely, not a single developer, much less group of developers on this board that could pull together a MMPORG in less than a few years.

It takes a lot of learning to make anything worthwhile in programming. Tic Tac Toe and Pong are good starter games. Game development is not easy, and it has a steep learning curve. It takes dedication to reach the ambitious goals you're setting for yourself.

That said, everyone here would be happy to help you learn. Just keep in mind that a MMPORG, much less even a game in 3D, is a long, long way off for a beginner. Start small and simple. Search the forums for advise for beginners. There's a lot out there.

Good luck and, again, welcome.

[EvolPenguin]

Also, always feel free to ask questions and remember to listen to the answers. As blobbo said, try pong or tic tac toe, if you want some help starting, you can message me on aim at EvoulPenguin, and I could help you make a Pong clone for your first game (This is pretty much what Ivan Milles did for me back in the beginning), which is a great start into game development. I'm not saying I'm perfect, but it can't hurt to learn. I'd be teaching you Cocoa. But if you want something easier, try TNT Basic, http://www.tntbasic.com, which is going to be free soon, or try BlitzMax http://www.blitzmax.com which is 80 dollars, but is pretty nice. Theres tutorials for both of those everywhere. If you just want to stick your art into a simple sidescroller, try http://www.sawbladesoftware.com they have a cool application for side-scrollers. Anyway, good luck with whatever way you go!

Alex

[Bachus]

http://connect.apple.com/ has the old developer tools. You'll have to sign up for an ADC account (there's a free one available). Get the December 2002 Mac OS X Developer Tools way down at the bottom of the Developer Tools heading. Those will work X.2.8.

There's no good free engine for MMORPG development on the Mac. You'll have to make your own.

[mr98321]

thanks a lot every one. ill start off small and maby after i get the hang of things ill try to get a grupe together and make a mmorpg.

[EvolPenguin]

Trust me, that will take a LOOONG time, not to mention money, and a bunch of dedicated people. You can make money with simple games, just do shareware, leave MMORPGs to the big businesses (unless you get hired by one of 'em big bizs). Also, try to fix your spelling a bit, just take a few minutes to spell check what you're posting.

Alex

[PowerMacX]

I think it would be nice to have an additional button right between "Post Quick Reply" and "Go Advanced". Something along the lines of "MMORPG Auto-Reply". Who's with me? :p

[sealfin]

Didn't we have a sticky for this? Ah, here we go (http://idevgames.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9560)...

[hokan]

thanks a lot every one. ill start off small and maby after i get the hang of things ill try to get a grupe together and make a mmorpg.


You could also try joining some existing mmorpg developer team, I got the following results after a little googeling:

* http://www.lonewolf-online.com/
- free, win/linux/mac support, based on crystal space (I think)

* http://web2.168180.vserver.de/index.php
- open source, win/linux (apparently some macosx support)

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Or build on an existing engine e.g.:

* http://www.planeshift.it/about.html
- free source code (but without game assets), win/linux/mac support

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I'm fairly sure that there are other free/open source projects, who's name I can't recall right now.