Hullo, like wilkey92, I am determined to learn how to program for games and/or program my own very, very* small 2D game engine.

I have three questions on this matter. Please respond only if you have real information that would help me.

I am using a G4 Macintosh with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger.

• The first question is what language should I start with? C+, C++, Cocoa?

• The second question is exactly where can I find everything I need to learn it.

• The third question is that I really want to learn C (And eventually C++) for game engines. Is this possible with my computer?

Thank you very much.

1. Cocoa is not(I think) a language. Cocoa is a set of frameworks. I like Objective-C, but I haven't really tried game development so I don't know how suitable it is.

2. I don't know of any books since I haven't really looked, but there's information all over the web, if you're willing to spend more time googling than coding. I took the google approach(for learning cocoa), and strongly recommend books.

3. I see no reason why it would be any less possible than any other language.

Places to look…
http://www.idevgames.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14803
http://www.idevgames.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11896

GIYF,

- LG

First question: Start with C. Also, Cocoa is an API, not a language.

Second question: There is no one perfect place to find everything you need to learn everything about programming. There is a great book I can recommend on how to learn to program C on the Mac though: http://www.spiderworks.com/books/learncmac.php

Third question: Yes.

...and if you're primarily interested in getting your feet wet, and creating a simple game, I heartily recommend getting into Python (the game) and Pygame (the game creation framework).

Fenris Wrote:...and if you're primarily interested in getting your feet wet, and creating a simple game, I heartily recommend getting into Python (the game) and Pygame (the game creation framework).

Or even better than Pygame, Pyglet!

I second pyglet. People probably shouldn't be recommending Pygame anymore. It's bloated and is pure SDL.

Thank you for the help guys.

Fenris, I don't want to make a game. I want to make it's engine.

PatrickA Wrote:Thank you for the help guys.

Fenris, I don't want to make a game. I want to make it's engine.

No need to be picky, an "engine" is more or less just a content-free game. All of our suggestions still stand.

Aha! I thought Pyglet was a game but I see now that it's not.

Would pyglet be better to know then C?

Google tells me pyglet is a multimedia library for python. It may be easier to start with pyglet, but usually you need to learn C sometime later for speed-critical programs (which is not too difficult once you know another similar language).

C isn't for beginners. Also, C's libraries aren't for beginners.

Why can't he learn C?

I can, it's just that it's not meant for beginners. But, I'll probably learn it anyway.

Thanks, I'm going to get some pyglet tutorials right now.

C, itself, is perfectly fine for beginners. It's just that doing anything more than a command line tool isn't necessarily so easy because you'll have to learn other API(s) to do more complex stuff like graphical games.

Well, it may be hard, it may be tough...but I'm gonna learn it.

My main ambition is to make a little 2D game. Thats gonna be soooo fun!...I can't wait.