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Post: #16
Quote:Originally posted by M.J.
If you had the opportunity to confront them and they said "I can't afford it, but I wanted it, so it's OK to steal it." Would you think it was OK?


Hehe, what an opportunity that would present.
To actually kick, punch and rob them, and say "well I really didn't want to, but I couldn't afford to pay for a punching bag, because you didn't pay for my software, but hey, with this nifty credit card of yours I can pay for all the things I need and give my software away free. Thanks buddy!"

No its not ok to download old software.
Except maybe abandonware, software that isn't supported, sold, or otherwise available in any other form. Even that I think will eventually lead to 10 -20 years in jail if US lawmakers, hollywood and the music industry have their way.

Technically, and you should read the licenses, when you purchase a license to software, you do not OWN anything.
You merely pay for the priveledge to use it.

Also, if you read the license agreement when signing on to this site I'm pretty sure its says something about not discussing illegal activities, ie, where and how to download pirated software, where to get a fat bag of drugs, or links to your kiddie porn site.

So snickrep, since you have been in hot water over this "stealing issue" several times I suggest you use google to discover what the laws are before you get boiled here again for your reckless & lawless, "excuse me for being a theif" threads.

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Post: #17
Quote:Originally posted by death_himself
... I don't like money...


Send your excess to me, please. I could use it, and I find it quite enjoyable.
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Post: #18
Too late GoodDoug, he has it earmarked for new underwear. Go figure. I'll take money over underwear anyday.
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Post: #19
Quote:Originally posted by igame3d
Too late GoodDoug, he has it earmarked for new underwear. Go figure. I'll take money over underwear anyday.

I'm kind of against going commando... there is the whole zipper dilimma
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Post: #20
Well, he said he needed new underwear, which would seem to imply that he has at least one pair; besides, if he had to I'm sure he could improvise with a few sheets of paper and a roll of tape (staples would probably be a bad idea).
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Post: #21
Laptop access to the package installer is worth the security risks

Oh instead of stealing software.
Why don't you just download iGame3D and use that?
It's free after all.

Well, I will collect your soul at the appropriate time, but since you're already guilty of piracy...better to be a assimilated into my application that burn for eternity.

Dontcha think?
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Post: #22
Quote:Originally posted by igame3d
Laptop access to the package installer is worth the security risks

Er, what? Blink Are you talking about piracy or pants? Rasp

Quote:Oh instead of stealing software...

To be fair, I think snickrep was trying to figure out a legitimate way of getting hold of software. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have bothered asking the question.

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Post: #23
Well I lost the big long post I was writing and I'm too lazy to write it again, which is a shame because it was full of wit and humor and metaphore and made a very convincing argument against stealing software and didn't have run-on sentences like this one. But since everyone is basically agreeing with me anyway and the thread has now disintegrated into a discussion of homemade underwear (staples, OUCH! :ohmySmile it's probably not worth reconstructing. Trust me though, it was good. It compared software to cars... did I mention the wit and humor?... I guess you had to be there...

I will repeat my conclusion, however. A better way to approach the OP's situation would have been to post something like: "I need to do Task X. I know Program Y is famous for doing Task X really well and that's what all the pros use, but my financial situation does not allow me to purchase Program Y. Does any one know of any free, cheap, or at least affordable alternatives that would allow me to accomplish Task X?"
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Post: #24
Well...surely the whole zippa dillema is a good reason to go commando...it'll make going through crowds alot easier Smile.

I have underwear, but I need new ones, all of me is growing, I need bigger ones. Good God...thats gonnah make some people puke Smile.
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Post: #25
Quote:Originally posted by death_himself
I don't have the money for a student license.


How come you have the money for an expensive computer (Mac) but not for an education copy of the software you run on it?

And I am appalled that people claim that students "need" to pirate software. Education is expensive. How can you find the money for thousands in fees (plus a computer), but not a hundred bucks or less for the software. Besides, at the universities I've experienced, if a subject requires a particular application they provide it on their machine in their labs for students to use.

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Post: #26
Quote:Originally posted by death_himself
The thing is, is it really wrong to pirate something, that not only you cannot afford but cannot get an equivalent at a good price either?


Only someone incapable of producing intellectual property can justify ablating intellectual property rights.

Would you steal hardware?

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Post: #27
Damian, I'm not a student, I don't pay fees, I thought a student license was for anyone interested in learning some software and allowed them to do so as long as they didn't produce anything with it (ie. learning c++ with codewarrior)...I've just realised that I'm probably completely wrong.

I didn't buy this mac, my parents did, years ago Smile . I had the money for my £200 PC because I saved up long and hard for it and did not give into temptation by buying myself new underwear and other clothes. A student license would take me a year to save up for...if the government carried on giving me money, which they're not going to because I'm not going on to further education...which is why I'm trying to get a job, but I don't know how succesfull I'll be, because, well, I'm not the sort of person people like to employ.

I weren't justifying, I were wondering whether metrowerks had lost a possible sale by me pirating their software Smile ...which they might have,m because I could carry on using codewarrior 7.0, well, forever, instead of upgrading, so not only did they not get money from me buying it in the first place, but they might not get any money from me buying newer versions...though this is all hypothetical, because I doubt they're going to continue development of codewarrior.
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Post: #28
Quote:Originally posted by Damian
And I am appalled that people claim that students "need" to pirate software. Education is expensive. How can you find the money for thousands in fees (plus a computer), but not a hundred bucks or less for the software. Besides, at the universities I've experienced, if a subject requires a particular application they provide it on their machine in their labs for students to use.

All of this is true. Actually, after spending several minutes trying to put together a sensible argument to counter you, I've decided to retract my remark about students needing to pirate software. You're right. For the reasons you mention, they don't have a leg to stand on!

Hmm... almost everyone is taking the moral high ground in this discussion, but I find it difficult to believe that there is anyone here who has never used pirate software? Are we being hypocritical?

Quote:Originally posted by death_himself
this is all hypothetical, because I doubt they're going to continue development of codewarrior.

Do you mean you think they're going to discontinue CodeWarrior because of Apple's free developer tools?

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Post: #29
Can't you download MPW for free? There ARE free alternatives.
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Post: #30
Yes, I do think they're going to discontinue developing codewarrior...though, I don't think apple is really pushing developers off it's platform...afterall, by including a free compiler surely you are increasing and encouraging the amount of developers on your platform? Perhaps apple thought that it might entice non-programmers into programming (people of about my age, possibly?) and perhaps a little way into the future these people might be dedicated to the mac platform after starting out their development with it?

Anyway, thats a different matter entirely.

MPW...I were under the impression it was hard to use and you had to know how to program to use it (what I mean is, you couldn't learn to program on it, because according to some people a newbie wouldn't even be able to compile on it, I believed them and gave it a miss...I don't know much about it though).

But, point is, I don't pretend to myself that me pirating is right, but its not exactly the heaviest thing on my consciounce (spelling, I know) right now. I'd like to say that I don't give a damn, but thats not entirely true.

So am I the only one who admits to pirating on here?
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