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@Headshotz: No, not unless you are extremely patient, have a lot of time, and don't mind buying hardware only to find out that it doesn't work. Which if that was the case you'll probably waste more time and money getting it working than if you would have just bought a Mac outright to dual boot.

The people that make a working hackintosh generally seem more interested in the process than using the end product.

@backslash: The illegality of breaking a EULA depends on where you live. So no, it is not strictly illegal to do so.

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(Aug 1, 2010 08:05 AM)Skorche Wrote:  @Headshotz: No, not unless you are extremely patient, have a lot of time, and don't mind buying hardware only to find out that it doesn't work. Which if that was the case you'll probably waste more time and money getting it working than if you would have just bought a Mac outright to dual boot.

The people that make a working hackintosh generally seem more interested in the process than using the end product.

@backslash: The illegality of breaking a EULA depends on where you live. So no, it is not strictly illegal to do so.

Using a hackintosh is very much in breach of the developer agreement we all signed with Apple for the Mac or iPhone developer status so it's mostly for that reason that they are not discussed or supported here.
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(Aug 1, 2010 08:05 AM)Skorche Wrote:  and don't mind buying hardware only to find out that it doesn't work.

Definitely don't try to flash a PC video card to put in your mac if you aren't okay with bricking the card. It seems like a good way to save money, but the risks are real.

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(Aug 2, 2010 07:26 AM)AndyKorth Wrote:  
(Aug 1, 2010 08:05 AM)Skorche Wrote:  and don't mind buying hardware only to find out that it doesn't work.

Definitely don't try to flash a PC video card to put in your mac if you aren't okay with bricking the card. It seems like a good way to save money, but the risks are real.

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For whatever reason(s), Apple doesn't like people building/buying/using so-called "hackintoshes". It is the policy of this forum not to engage in discussion which may somehow encourage breaking any legal agreements with any company. Besides that, the few Apple employees who show up here to help out from time to time will surely stop doing that if we start discussing things which might somehow threaten their employment.
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(Aug 2, 2010 10:33 AM)Skorche Wrote:  Getting off topic and a little sarcastically bitter:

(Aug 2, 2010 02:10 AM)Zwilnik Wrote:  Using a hackintosh is very much in breach of the developer agreement we all signed with Apple for the Mac or iPhone developer status so it's mostly for that reason that they are not discussed or supported here.

As I may or may not be contractually obligated to have no opinion on whether that statement is ironic or not, I can officially find no irony. However, if the article by the EFF is true, the validity of which I do not comment on here, then I would be able to find irony that you were disclosing terms of the agreement which in itself may or may not be part of the said agreement. (depending on whether or not the EFF article is true)

Your contract and goodwill is with Apple, not the EFF. As with all contracts, the goodwill and good faith part of it tends to be a lot more important than the actual legalese as far as long term success is concerned.

Hackintoshes waste Apple's time and they waste our time (as we've seen before) if a dev is trying to get questions answered about something that just doesn't happen to work on their random non Mac.
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Point taken. Not trying to start any arguments, just poke some fun at the ridiculousness of some of Apple's paranoid NDA's when you technically can't talk about that you can't talk about it.

Ethics and legality debates aside, hackintoshes are generally very impractical as you've said. Arguing over the ethics and legality of hackintoshes or adding sarcasm is clearly a waste of everyone's time so I withdraw my previous comment.

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